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What did George and Cindy know and when?

So, I didn’t find out about this contest in time to read through these old posts and find the best one. But ranting about Casey Anthony reminded me how much I love to write and I do want to claim that title, writer so desperately that I’m willing to enter this barely cleaned up text with all-caps, bolding and ranting just so that I can enter http://youareawriter.com !! I hope I will find it motivating to revive this blog and write more often- it will pain me to put this out there without updating with something that actually moves beyond a drafty ramble. This was originally published on 10/30/09.

I’m still TRYING to give them the benefit of the doubt at least as to their knowledge and actions prior to July 15. But it seems like most of what I read on the interwebs and blogospheres does not seem to reinforce the feeling. I’m surprised though, at the number of people who believe that Cindy and/or George were involved in Caylee’s death or at least had guilty knowledge of it. Let’s just say there are many spots available in the Anthony fan club— lots and lots of them. But I wonder if most people really think they have guilty knowledge or they are just trying not to harm Casey any further now? They recently went on a Caribbean cruise, supposedly w/some of the $20,000 CBS (48 Hours) is paying them for their appearance or for licensing the photos and videos of Caylee. Which is common practice and frankly not that much money for this kind of case but would you go on a Caribbean cruise right now?

I’m not sure they really thought that through (surprise). I mean, everyone needs a break- but if I were of limited means, desperately searching for my grandaughter and thought that someone named Zenaida might have her in Puerto Rico…as they say…I think I might book a $204 flight to Puerto Rico rather than a cruise. Even though the prices seem to be about the same. Of course, on the cruise your room is included but in Puerto Rico they could just stay w/Ricardo’s family so…yeah, that might actually work out bc the way they talk about Ricardo they would surely need to look into his peeps over there–it’s perfect.

Honestly, I don’t really think it’s that terrible that they did that- took a vacation. But seriously, WHO THE HELL is advising them? How about at least waiting a bit. WHY must you do it when you KNOW you just brought the national spotlight on you again? How about wait a couple of weeks, a month? They thank the media for the vacation– telling the camera person– thanks you paid for this but then in the very next breath say- thanks a lot you just RUINED our vacation! Gee, the vacation was great until we docked and got to the pkg lot- it really went downhill from there.

Anyway, I almost want to call the Anthony’s up and offer to help them PR wise. They seem quite clueless or else they ceased to care. They should care though- they are NOT doing themselves or their daughter any favors. They seem to have ABSOLUTELY no concept of how one thing that comes out of your mouth should usually agree w/the next or at least have some relation to it. The way they think and operate should truly be studied. But I digress.

I think it’s OBVIOUS how much they loved Caylee and my heart goes out to them for their tragic loss- it is clear they were DEVASTATED. Casey…not so much. The only times that I can remember her crying were when she found out she wouldn’t get out on bond, casey cryingwhen her dad said “hey gorgeous” in a jail visitation and casey crying2when she and Jose gave a press conference as she was about to turn herself in to go back to jail and he blathered on about what an amazing mom she was and how hard this ordeal has been for her after people actually started looking for Caylee. In those jail visitations it’s ALL about Casey. She never once brings up trying to find Caylee and BARELY tolerates questions on the matter. Her parents tip toe around things so much it’s painful to watch.

Nobody gets a handbook on how to react in that situation. Strangely I think that part of their Caylee “foundation” includes plans to offer advice to people who find themselves in that situation–Wow. I’d be curious to know what their guidance would be because they have behaved quite BIZARRELY at times- not exactly a road map for success in the public eye.

Have you read those depositions taken by the state?? I do think the whole family is in MASSIVE cover up mode at this point and have been for quite some time. So much so, that they aren’t making much sense but again, they just don’t seem to realize it or care. But are they covering up some inside knowledge or just trying to save their daughter?

ALL 3 of them profess to believe that Caylee MAY still be alive!! My jaw is still sore from the fall on that one. I guess at some point I should cease to be surprised but they sure keep the hits coming! Apparently no one who ever crossed paths with Caylee is safe…

They think Jesse’s mom was that tip from Wanda at the Orlando airport. She flew Caylee to Atlanta and that’s where the other tip of someone matching Jesse and his truck were “seen.” Which explains why Jesse “high tailed” it out of O-town (to Athens, GA) so fast after Caylee disappeared. But, in case that’s not true they are also “hot on the trail” of some poor lady named Zenaida in Puerto Rico and they said that Ricardo is gay or bisexual and he and Amy are heavily involved in heroin use. I feel soo sorry for anyone that ever tried to befriend Casey.

I know many people think that the Anthony’s were involved somehow early on or at least knew about it and just pretended to search for Caylee all that time knowing she was dead. I just find that so hard to believe or else I just want so badly not to believe it. What did they know and when did they know it? I think they thought she might be alive or were desperately clinging to that right up until December 11th. However…

One thing I really want to figure out is–what is the deal w/Dominic Casey going to those woods in November where little Caylee was found twice or was it three times? There is something super fishy about that. I wasn’t following the case as closely at times so I think I missed a lot when all of that was coming out. But what I’ve read and seen so far bothers me. I cannot figure that one out. I just watched George’s depo in the civil suit and his reaction to this line of questioning seemed a bit strange to me as well. His attitude almost takes a 180 from the entire rest of the depo. The questioning starts in the last half of the second part. From the beginning of the interview until about this part George is hostile and unbelievably arrogant. He wants so badly to show this by looking down his nose at John Morgan. Unfortunately, he can’t because he’s not so tall and it almost looks like he’s leaning back to take care of a nose bleed. george grinch3Something about the faces he makes here remind me of the Grinch. grinch george And I don’t mean that in a derogatory way, George, because I happen to love Dr. Suess. I’m just saying. Your face is very expressive. Jim Carrey makes a lot of money that way.

I think Casey has probably threatened them with taking Caylee away anytime she didn’t get her way. She could see (through her jealous rage) how powerful Caylee was as a threat and she held that to their heads like a .357.

In that first phone call home from jail- the first time the police have a chance to help find Caylee- ALL she wants is Tony’s phone number. She rants angrily about the police– They’ve already said they’re going to pin this on me if they DON’T find Caylee!!– like THAT is the worst thing about them NOT FINDING YOUR DAUGHTER?!@!@#$%??

She also whines in that first call (2:10)- They just want Caylee back. That’s all they’re worried about right now is getting Caylee back!! Ooops, she tries to recover and say that’s all she’s worried about too…but FIRST… GIVE ME TONY’S NUMBER RIGHT NOW! You people can look for my daughter later but I NEED TO TALK TO MY F’IN BOYFRIEND!

Whenever she did leave on June 16 I think Cindy was worried, increasingly desperate and probably taking it out on George. Saying– You drove her away! You were always acting like a detective, checking up on her. You busted her at Sports Authority, you chased her down the highway– this is all YOUR fault. I blame YOU for not having my Caylee! I think George has been almost completely neutered (Cindy keeps those in a jar). He gets them back at certain times because he acknowledged the smell and warned one of the cops that night that his daughter might be lying. But speaking of that smell… WHY didn’t the many cops that were in and out of the house that night smell the trunk? A smell that distinct, immediately recognizable and permeating that car?? How thorough of a cleaning job did Cindy do on that car? Was the Febreze she sprayed everywhere powerful enough to have covered it? Seems doubtful.

Anyway, I think she blamed George and threatened him even more ‘after the crime’ and has now cracked the whip and circled the wagons. Now the only thing in their minds (Cindy, George and Lee) is SAVING CASEY. And sadly that doesn’t leave any room for reality, reason, civility or consistency- let alone JUSTICE FOR CAYLEE. Cindy says in that 48 Hours episode that justice for Caylee is what’s most important and that that will bring justice for Casey– the truth will set Casey free. I think they’ve treated truth so poorly it might not get a chance to stand up for Caylee anymore.

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Lee Anthony’s depostion (in Zenaida’s case)- a summary.

Lee Anthony does the right thing- shows up- and Zenaida’s attorneys depose him. The interview and his answers boggle the mind and stretch your imagination –starting w/Lee saying that to this day he still believes EVERYTHING his sister tells him. Um, have you met your sister? That does NOT speak highly of your intelligence or your grasp on reality.

Lee Anthony under oath.

Lee Anthony under oath.


Part 1 (about 30 mins)
Lee Anthony doesn’t seem nervous- there’s none of the awkward giggling we heard in his first interview w/the police… at least not at first. Later on he continues to appear very relaxed and there’s a surprising amount of chuckling from Caylee’s uncle.

Lee appears to be keeping eye contact w/Morgan and doesn’t seem to even look over at Zenaida when Morgan intros everyone in the room. Casey’s attorneys were not there which is being reported as highly unusual. I consider that a blessing.

Morgan asks some establishing questions- even joking w/Lee about where they both attended high school, Winter Park, – Lee attended there for 9th grade and then went on to finish high school at Colonial- saying he wished he’d stayed at Winter Park.

Lee has lived back at home since the beginning of January to help out his parents financially. This case must have really decimated his life. He lost his darling niece, his sister is in jail, he has been subject to cruel and demeaning speculation as to his character, and instead of saving money and preparing a home for his and his girlfriend’s new baby he’s moved back in w/his parents to help them out.

The first time he heard the name Zenaida Gonzales was the day Casey was arrested. He says he heard the name when Casey called the home from jail, he didn’t say jail- he just sort of let the sentence trail off but Morgan prompted him- “from jail” and he acknowledged.

So Lee NEVER heard about Caylee having a nanny named Zanny. It only came up (at least to him) when Casey needed someone to blame for Caylee’s disappearance. Lee says that his mom claimed to have heard the name before. Interesting choice of words. He says Cindy had heard the name Zanny but that the full name Zenaida Fernandez Gonzales was new to everyone- that was Lee’s impression.

Morgan asks if Lee was under the impression that Casey was making up the story about Zanny to which Lee says “To this day, I believe everything that my sister tells me.” (WTF?) Morgan replies, “I understand that.” And Lee closes his eyes and nods knowingly. WHAT? I DON’T understand that. I think I would not have been able to conceal the shock on my face and might have slipped in some questions about WHICH story do you believe and why?. I think you can support your sister w/out making yourself out to sound like a complete imbecile by saying that you believe EVERYTHING your crazy, nutball, lying sister has to say.

As to childcare for Caylee Lee said that Cindy and George were the primary caregivers/babysitters for Caylee but he knew of Casey leaving her in the care of other friends of the family but never compensating anyone to his knowledge. Here he breaks out in laughter- somewhat reminiscent of the nervous giggling. He seems quite comfortable not at all distraught or emotional about the subject matter.

He says he had no knowledge of Casey’s employment situation. Lee’s attny (I assume, he’s off camera.) objects to relevance but allows him to answer. Lee says he doesn’t know if or how Casey would pay a caretaker for Caylee.

Lee says that he and his family always encouraged Casey to speak to police and cooperate. Lee says that during the phone call Casey made from jail he didn’t speak to her for long but he mainly tried to get her to calm down and not berate her mother saying that Casey was upset that no one believed her. I think the jist of the conversation was GIVE ME TONY’S NUMBER – not pleas from Casey- I’m telling the truth- you’ve got to believe me – that’s the only way we can find Caylee. There was none of that concern. She wanted to talk to her boyfriend and FU@K all else- anything that doesn’t help me meet that goal is just a WASTE, A HUGE WASTE! I think his memory is selective here.

Morgan asks if Casey was upset on the phone at that time bc Cindy was accusing her of…Morgan says he doesn’t want to use the word LYING (REALLY- why the hell not?)…someone pipes up w/- uh being untruthful?– which Morgan likes. Lee says well, we didn’t really know the truth at that time (yeah, and you still don’t). Lee is hesitant here and says well, there’s a difference between lying and not being forthcoming, those are “two completely different things,” according to Lee.

Lee says that to his understanding Casey was “instructed” by “this Zanny person” to tell that story and to not go to police. He says I don’t know what someone could hold over someone’s head to do that- there’s nothing that would make me do that, I would die right here for her. Hmm, but not Casey.

Lee says that they didn’t really have a comfortable conversation until Casey was released from jail bc they knew they were not being recorded. Hmm- WERE they being recorded? I wonder if authorities had the home bugged?

Lee says that Casey revealed that this Zanny person was threatening not only Caylee’s life but the entire family. Lee says the family was frustrated bc they said- there’s NOTHING you should hold back bc nothing could be worse than what we’re already going through.

It’s funny at one point bc Morgan asks if Casey’s attny was giving her bad advice (the understatement of the century IMO) the advice not to go to police. But Lee doesn’t even flinch- he says at that point she didn’t have representation.

Lee says he was frustrated – not blown away- by the threats saying, there’s nothing anyone could hold over him- he would have gone to authorities.

Morgan asks WHY Zanny would want to take Caylee?- Lee says that Casey’s answer was that Zenaida didn’t think that Caylee should be w/Casey and she was taking Caylee from her to “teach her a lesson.”

Lee was frustrated saying- don’t hold anything back- I could have used all of this info a month ago bc he’s been “investigating” everything during this time that Casey was in jail. That’s the end of part one.

Here’s part 2. (21 mins)

Lee says he never doubted that there was a Zanny the nanny- he believed his sister.

Morgan says that everyone watching the case has always commended Lee’s actions during this case. Hmm, he doesn’t read the blogs evidently.

Lee says he talked to hundreds of his and Casey’s friend during his “investigation” – looking for a live Caylee.

Morgan asks who Caylee’s father is- Lee answers no- Lee’s attny objects as to relevance. They discuss bc Morgan says part of proving his case, bc his client was questioned as to Caylee’s whereabouts, it would help to find who might have taken Caylee bc his client didn’t.

Lee says, w/a chuckle, “With all due respect, you’re not going to get that answer from me, I would have kicked that door in a long time ago.” He goes on in a bit of macho bravado saying if he ever had any indication of who had Caylee “from the President on down” he would have kicked that door in.

Lee says that during the month that Caylee and Casey weren’t staying in their home he was never alerted to worry about their whereabouts. That is curious bc of Cindy’s July 3 “distraught” myspace msg about Caylee being missing and reports of Lee going to a bar looking for Casey (she fled).

Morgan brings that up next- big discussion w/attnys as to relevance. Morgan’s attnys school Lee’s attnys saying we’ll get the answer eventually and we’ll be seeking fees and costs so if you instruct your client not to answer- it’s not a valid objection and it will cost you. Lee speaks up bc he now remembers his mom calling him July 3rd saying Casey and Caylee haven’t been home – he went online figured out where she was and went looking for her.

Lee makes a statement unrelated to this saying someone (many people) forwarded him Zenaida’s myspace saying – could this be the person? he says based on all the evidence he had from Casey’s statements- this person (Zenaida) was never under suspicion from him. Pointing to the “mam” across the table – Zenaida.

Part 3 (26 mins)

Morgan asks about Xanax being called a “zanny” – Lee says he’s never heard of that- NEVER heard of taking a xanax as related to Zanny the nanny he says he’s NEVER heard that until today. I find that INCREDIBLY HARD TO BELIEVE- if he’s been AT ALL following this case. That speculation has been rampant online (especially here).

Morgan questions Lee about July 3rd bc Lee was looking for her downtown and actually spoke to her – Casey told him she was in Jacksonville. He repeatedly called her she finally picked up and said leave me alone, I’m in Jax, I’ll be home tomorrow. He said he knew she was lying. Hmm, I thought you believed EVERYTHING your sister tells you?

Lee says he asked about Caylee’s whereabouts that night bc he could hear that she was “out” at a party- he could hear noise in the background. Casey said “someone” was watching her and he didn’t ask who.

Lee says that even to this day neither he nor his mom know WHY Casey left the house in June. What about the HUGE argument they had bc Casey stole from her grandparents and Cindy was threatening to take custody, screaming so loud a neighbor heard and supposedly putting her hands on Casey’s neck? Hmm, I actually thought that the story about the fight becoming physical that night came from Lee.

Lee says he had no knowledge of his mother ever trying to take custody of Caylee- he never heard about that except after the fact through what he called “bullcrap” sources like the media. Morgan now asks about the alleged “physical” confrontation between Cindy and Casey- he denies it, chuckling saying he’s never broken up a physical confrontation between Casey and anyone. Wow, if that’s true, I wonder who made that story up in the first place?

Lee talks about Casey’s “timer55” password for myspace and yahoo- hoping to clear up Morgan’s questions regarding “internet” communication w/Zanny. Lee said Casey claimed that whoever took Caylee reset her password to that and that was the amount of time that this person was going to have Caylee before they would return her. Lee says, its creepy and gave him chills bc If you count from June 16 when Caylee was “taken” – if you count from there to 55 days it was to August 9th- which was Caylee’s birthday. THAT is highly suspicious bc Casey would know that that was exactly how much time she had to run or do what she was going to do.

That was HER deadline for how long she could hopefully BULLSH!T her parents as to Caylee’s whereabouts. SHE would know that they would NEVER accept any of her ridiculous excuses for not being able to see Caylee past that date. She would HAVE to produce her on Caylee’s birthday.

That’s also why Casey had an exact countdown and knew that her daughter was “missing” 31 days instead of the actual date she was “taken”- thus the whole June 9th or 16th confusion.

Lee now throws Jesse into the mix saying that one other person knew of the “timer55” password and that was Jesse Grund. It seems like he may have been trying to throw Jesse under the bus here but gets sidetracked. Throwing Jesse under the bus seems to be quite the old family tradition (not as much fun as Hank’s). He goes into this bc he says he was trying to delete all of Casey’s pics bc everything was being “sensationalized.” He says everything from Facebook and all of those type accounts had been deleted from end of April to July 3rd. He laughs bc he associates it w/the night he almost tracked her down bc she knew that that’s how he almost caught up w/her. Yet he says Casey “claims” that she did not do this deleting. And we’re to assume he believes this BS bc he BELIEVES EVERYTHING HIS SISTER TELLS HIM- EVEN TO THIS DAY.

Lee says Casey claims to have received communication from the “timer55” kidnapped person during this time things that told her for example to “show up to Target at 3pm” and Casey would do it.

Part 4 (34 mins)

Lee says he was never able to read the text comments to or from Casey- he says they’ve asked for that and laughs saying he would LOVE to see those but the authorities would never give those to him. He did have access to the phone numbers and to this day there are still some numbers that he does not know to whom they belong.

He says he has only seen Casey physically drunk twice in her life and says that she was not a “hard partyer.” Morgan asks about the phone call Casey supposedly received from Caylee on July 15th – we’ve all heard about this fictional call.

Lee gives the description Casey gave about Zenaida saying it doesn’t match this one and Casey has been consistent. She was early 20s, slender, light complexion (but she frequently tanned) and had no children.

They talk about Casey mtg Zenaida through Jeff Hopkins- NOT the one they both knew from high school. Even though that was the one that Casey had been telling her mom she was dating and the reason she was in Jax (though they don’t discuss this).

Morgan questions Lee about paying Zenaida to babysit and how many times Zenaida would babysit- Lee has no knowledge. Morgan asks about Casey dropping of Caylee the last time. Lee says Casey told him it was at Jay Blanchard Park- she met up w/Zanny and Zanny’s sister w/the sister’s two children. Casey gave him this story for the first time when she got out of jail in August. He says this story hasn’t changed though it is different from what Casey originally told police bc she had said it was at Sawgrass Apartments. Morgan asks where Casey was going that day- to which Lee replies she “claimed” she was going to work going on to say that she did work there at one time. Lee says that where Casey worked never had any relevance to him- he didn’t care bc he just wanted to find Caylee.

This bothers the hell out of me. BC why in the HELL was she dropping her off w/ANYBODY? The b!tch didn’t have a job! I was just listening to those intv tapes w/Casey that they made at Universal and NEVER ONCE does anyone bring that point up. I know hind sight is 20/20 but you would certainly think that would be a relevant question bc you’re sitting in a conference room at Universal having just found out that she DOES NOT WORK there- so WHY did she need a nanny? WHERE did she work? How did she pay the (imaginary) nanny?

Morgan says, bc she’s given so many stories w/inconsistencies even to you- did you start to doubt? Lee answers no- he believes there is more info he could be given- he believes there’s truth to a lot of what he’s been told. I find that VERY difficult to believe.

They go back to the Blanchard Park story- Morgan- throws in- “have you given this story to the police – what you’re telling me now?” Lee, looks up and to the left, and says, no…I don’t think so. Hmm. That’s curious isn’t it? Casey says she sat down on a bench w/Zenaida watching the kids play and she remembers Zenaida grabbing her arm forcefully to “kinda hold her down in a way” and that’s when she said I’m going to take Caylee from you- I will give her back to you but you need to follow my instructions- this is where she threatened- don’t go to the police or I will hurt your loved ones. Casey then saw Zenaida’s sister w/the kids at this point “briskly” walking to the car and Zenaida left too at this point. Uh, did you fight and scream and kick? Morgan doesn’t ask this.

Casey said Zenaida said this was to teach her a lesson. Morgan asks what lesson- w/Lee saying “I don’t know- if it was ever relayed to her, she didn’t relay it to me.” He laughs. WTF? Don’t you think that would be a relevant fu@cking question? Wouldn’t whatever that reason is be important- wouldn’t you mention it when pleading through the media w/Zanny to bring Caylee home. This just stinks to high heaven and insults my intelligence. That doesn’t pass the smell test- that would be priority number ONE in any investigation into getting Caylee back- WHY did they take her? Can we fix it?

Morgan asks if he ever asked Casey WHY she lied to police- saying to Lee- I can tell you’re a thinker. UGH. He says he never asked her that directly. Hmm. Lee says he still believes a Zenaida Gonzales could have kidnapped Caylee- it’s “absolutely” a possibility among a number of people. Saying he believes what someone tells him until he can prove otherwise. Morgan then asks if he believes one of those possible people could be his sister Casey- Lee’s attny objects and “certifies” it instructing his client not to answer.

Morgan goes back to why didn’t you call your sister on the lie of changing the story. Lee says he never asked her that question. BULLSH!T! Lee says he believes Casey was following instructions from Caylee’s kidnappers. Morgan says did Casey’s answers satisfy you?- to which he says- Caylee coming home safely is the ONLY thing that would have satisfied him in this case.

Did you ever ask Casey about an accident scenario- whether she accidently killed her then covered it up? Lee’s attnys object and instruct him not to answer. Lee says I’m not answering that question bc its not relevant. Morgan says I think you answered it by not answering it. BURN.

Morgan asks about the apparent ease at which Casey let Zenaida “kidnap” Caylee- offerring NO resistance. Lee says, laughing broadly, that he asked Casey did she try to resist- bc he would imagine a fist fight would ensue. He says Casey told him she was in shock and it was just surreal. BULLSH!T! Morgan asks if Casey pleaded w/Zenaida not to take her baby- Lee says he assumes so but Casey never told him that and he never asks. BULLSH!T!

OMG Morgan goes on w/this line of questioning saying- did that make sense to you- that she wouldn’t resist? Lee fumbles a bit saying yes and no…I’m a lot like my sister. Morgan says, I can tell. OUCH! Can you imagine a lower insult? Lee says he would be fighting to the death in that situation but no one can say anything about Casey’s actions bc they were not in her shoes. He says they were all concerned about making Casey comfortable and placating Casey so that they could get info from her. Yeah, WE CAN TELL! That’s why we have NO answers in this case. Lee didn’t ask if Zenaida had a gun or any weapon.

Part 5 (54 mins)

Morgan asks about Sawgrass and Lee says he doesn’t know anyone who lived there but he does know Annie and has heard of Dante. (That’s some investigating he must have done.) Lee says he knew most of Casey’s friends but didn’t know many that she had made since the beginning of 2008. Morgan asks did Zenaida tell Casey to go downtown (haha- yeah she told her to go out and party). Lee says, no I never asked her that- that would have been a good question.

Morgan asks about Zenaida having a key to the family home. Lee says he heard that Casey told her parents that she’d given Zenaida a key to the house. Lee says Cindy thought that was fine bc she was babysitting Caylee. BULLSH!T have you MET Cindy? That would NEVER happen. Lee says he’s spoken to the media about Zenaida giving a description etc. Though he NEVER spoke to the media updating them w/the correct “story” about Jay Blanchard Park. Lee says he “sadly” told Leonard Padilla, also told Dominick the PI and his parents and maybe Baez though he’s not sure that came up. WTF? Morgan asks why he never told the police- Lee says- the time never came up. BULLSH!T! Lee says the police just weren’t interested in hearing ANYTHING that came out of my sister’s mouth- they would automatically dismiss it. They were looking for a “dead Caylee” and the quickest way to do that was to paint his sister in a bad light and they never followed up on anything he provided him so they were no longer “on his speed dial” and they were for a while. That’s ludicrous- if you’re trying to find Caylee.

Lee is overly amicable and laughing in this intv- its weird. Lee says again that he believes everything his sister told him. Lee says I have to and explains by saying -by that he means when someone is telling you something and you need info from them you have to not call them a liar- that’s not his strategy. Well maybe you should switch up your fu@cking strategy when it’s obviously NOT working and you’re dealing w/a psycho spiteful b!tch that has been known to LIE EXTENSIVELY.

Morgan goes back to the line of questioning- WHY did you not release the new story about Jay Blanchard Park- the story you now claim to believe. Lee says- “apparently I don’t react the way that you do.” Morgan says after all these months you never told…Lee says, I don’t get your point. BULLSH!T! Uh, why not tell the police- what you believe to be the truth? Lee says he assumes they knew that new story and Morgan makes him look like a complete and total IDIOT. Rightly so. Doesn’t pass the smell test.

Lee says he told Cindy the story the morning after he heard and she didn’t have much of a reaction either. Morgan tries to get a reaction about Casey lying to police saying it’s a blockbuster but Lee does not see it as such- apparently no one in the family did either. Remember Cindy saying – well it’s not against the law to lie. UGH! Lee really seems to struggle here- and says “for the life of me I can’t figure out why that didn’t stand out to me.” Um, perhaps bc it was one in a series of whoppers you heard from your sister?

Someone should ask the question- IF you believed that story WHY didn’t you go immediately to the police and the media and say it was a public park around noon surely SOMEONE SAW SOMETHING- here’s a description – someone stole Caylee in broad daylight PLEASE COME FORWARD!!!

Morgan asks if Lee ever had any conversations w/his parents about Casey’s “truthfulness.” Lee’s attny originally objects and “certifies” (which I gather means- instructing Lee not to answer). Morgan is stupefied- as this is a defamation case about Casey lying and Lee’s attny evidently spits out the stupid pill and takes it back. Lee has a huge gregarious laugh here- does he even KNOW why he’s sitting there. I think he answered and said they never had a conversation about her truthfulness in this case in particular but had discussed her lying in the past. He goes on to say he used to have a problem w/lying…like when he was in middle school. He says Casey hit that “stage” too- but she hit it in high school. He calls them little white lies. Lee when asked about what type of lies Casey would tell said- well skipping school for example. Morgan asks about stealing money– Lee reluctantly answered yes.

Lee says they never commented in the family about- WOW- Casey lied to the police and further Morgan asks, they didn’t take offense to the fact that she also lied to THEM. (During this question Lee picks some earwax and looks at it- gross- he appears uncomfortable.) Lee shrugs it off saying she was trying to protect Caylee. He says if it protects her child I hope she continues to lie. WTF? Her child is dead- you want her to continue to lie? Morgan says isn’t it true that she would do or say anything to protect herself as well? Lee says he believes that is secondary. They have a big hearty laugh over would they lie to protect themselves. Lee seems to find the whole thing amusing- it seems he’s overly confident and trying to really ingratiate himself w/Morgan.

Lee says that since Casey was released from jail they had about 5-7 minutes at most- they never had the brother/sister time that they needed. Morgan asks if Lee told someone that he feels if he could see Casey alone w/no one watching- he believes he could get the truth out of her. He says yes- I believe I could.

Morgan asks if Casey described the sister? Lee seems to search back in his mind- whew- he laughs. Morgan says- well this is a major co-conspirator who allegedly took Caylee. Reminding Lee that that should be of primary importance. Lee says well, I think I have it written down somewhere. Shouldn’t you till be looking for those people MORON? Lee says he wouldn’t have a problem giving them the notes he took when questioning Casey. Morgan goes back to the description of the sister- Lee seems to get agitated and says wow- then proceeds to lay it out in a very condescending manner. There is some confusing talk about to whom Casey first spun the new tale about Jay Blanchard Park. Morgan is trying to get him to understand that in any NORMAL family this would have been earth shattering, case breaking, life changing news. It sure makes it seem like no one in their family thought it was big news.

They are talking about whether Casey ever told him not to speak to the media- he says no but he never asked permission. Some one mentions Baez and a HEARTY laugh is enjoyed by all as Morgan says- I’ll get to him later. Morgan asks about the entertainment deals allegedly offered to the family- he says nothing has been mentioned to him but wild outlandish things have been offered to the family. He says he’s never heard it straight from his mom or dad that they’ve taken money. Morgan asks if Jose Baez has taken money- someone starts to object and Morgan says- I’m going to ask bc I KNOW the answer to this question. Lee’s attny (I assume) objects as to “work product” and they go off the record for a minute.

Lee says he doesn’t know for sure if his family received $200,000 from ABC- he hasn’t “heard it to know it to be true.” He has no knowledge that anyone in his family has received compensation. Morgan asks if he knows about Jose allegedly asking People magazine for $500,000- Lee says that’s the first he’s heard of that rumor. Me too. (10 more minutes- I’m so over Lee right now.)

Lee has never sat down and told Jose Baez the Jay Blanchard Park story but he has had many conversations w/Jose and has referenced the story. Morgan asks if there was ever a conversation about Casey’s lies and this new story creates a problem for the defense- to which Lee laughingly replies- no I’ve never heard that- that would be a conversation for Casey. Big laughs. Lee hasn’t talked to Jose since the day that they identified Caylee’s remains but said he gets along w/Jose fine.

Lee says he’s not aware if his parents are unhappy w/Jose’s defense. Morgan asks about the media being invited to Caylee’s memorial. Lee says that they knew they’d have to have it taped in order for Casey to see it. Lee says he doesn’t know much about that- his mom set it up. Morgan says- why when you had such a problem w/the media being here to day- why was it ok for so many cameras to be there for such a personal moment as the memorial. Lee says- that wasn’t his choice- it would be private. Morgan goes on to ask about the memorial and says he didn’t see much- but saw Lee and Herkey singing- hearty laugh from Lee- he says “you missed some good stuff”- WHAT?

Morgan asks about Lee’s speech and keeping his promise to CMA. Lee says he was speaking to Caylee- he made a promise to her early on- in July – that no matter what it took I was going to find out the truth. He says he kissed both of the bracelets on his wrist one is for Casey and one is for Caylee. He says there are 3 women in his life w/the initials CMA his mom, his sister and Caylee. Morgan asks about the Winnie the Pooh blanket and whether he knew if Casey took it to Jay Blanchard Park. Lee says no- she has a ton of Winnie the Pooh stuff. Morgan then asks if he ever saw Casey or Caylee playing w/heart stickers around the house- Lee says no. I’m surprised that didn’t raise an objection- who is this attny for Lee? Did he go to school w/Jose?

Morgan thanks him and says he’s not ending the deposition – he’s suspending it bc several questions were “certified” and they need to hold a hearing. It ends w/a friendly laugh and smile from Lee saying you guys will keep communication open as to rescheduling in case he’s out of town chuckle chuckle- and he winks at Morgan. Wow- friendly, fun business being deposed by some one suing your sister for defamation bc someone w/the same name supposedly kidnapped and killed your niece.

Morgan made a statement after the deposition that they don’t know whether he told the truth today but said Lee appeared to be forthcoming. The tape of the deposition is available here. Lee’s attorney was geared up to fight the release of the tape until after the case was closed but it is said that Lee told him not to bother w/the delay- to just release it now.

Morgan on Nancy Grace says the bombshell he heard- was that the story changed and the family knew that she had lied to the police and the family didn’t rush to the police. Shocking huh? Morgan even comments on how often Lee laughs in this depo – considering your niece is dead and your sister is in prison charged w/it.

Oh, apropos of nothing…I’m just watching Sex and the City and after Miranda first slept w/Steve he comes back to try to take her on a date and introduces himself as Steve Brady. She later has his child and names him Brady if I’m not mistaken. I guess the writer’s fell asleep at the wheel bc that means she named her baby Brady Brady. Cruel…fictional, but cruel.

 
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Posted by on February 27, 2009 in Uncategorized

 

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Breaking News, Stunning police interrogations and Bombshells abound on Nancy Grace 10/1!

Once again watching Nancy- so you don’t have to. She starts off w/the usual -as mentioned in the title. Hmm- talking about the Heather Locklear DUI – they’re saying she may have been set up. Why are we supposed to care? Get to Caylee.

Desperate search for a beautiful 3 year old Florida girl. Tot mom needs to tell us what happened! OC investigators confirm that Casey is a suspect in her daughter’s disappearance. Playing the call -the first one where she’s cussing up a storm and saying they need to look for Zanny not just in the FL database. That call is disgusting.

Now the forensic pathologist Kobe (who’s a member of the defense team) is on. He’s pointlessly stating the obvious. Though he does say he expects charges to be brought soon, and says homicide charges make sense, given what the Sheriff said.

OCSO (Orange County Sheriff’s Office) spokesperson says she’s the one they go to for answers (a truly frightful state of affairs) and they’re hoping she’ll step up (I’m hoping to win the lottery too). Says some of the over 5,000 tips they’ve received seem like a smokescreen. Ya think?

Hmm, I wonder if they could be coming from the “missing” AKA imaginary “blackjack” phone? The calls are coming from inside the house!!! Have you checked the children? Get OUT of that house!!

Kobe seems to agree that there was decomposition in the trunk. Welcome to reality- its sad but true. Be careful you’ll get a nasty letter from Jose.

Unleashing the lawyers…
Person of Interest is just someone the police would like to talk to. Suspect is stronger and points to involvement. Does this up the ante for Casey to crack? Lawyer says no- lawyer won’t let her talk. Gotta love lawyers.

Casey on tape saying she has ‘perspective ideas’ about where she could be…NY, Miami etc. Total BS. What an idiot- her’s trying to use the big words.

Nancy still can’t pronounce Caylee’s name right- it drives me crazy (short trip). She pronounces it Kheillllee. Let’s have today’s show be sponsored by the letter K. Can you say that Nancy? That’s how you say CAylee’s name…K- lee. Pls try it.

Casey says–I’ve been looking for her and gone through other resources to try to find her. Resources like nightclubs and Tony’s couch?

Caller–Any credible tips that she’s been sighted? Answer directly from OCSO’s lips– in one word NO. Talking about clothing found early on- it was not linked to this case.

Caller asks if forensics can prove or disprove anything Casey says w/autopsy if remains are found– sadly no, its been too long. NG guests says the reason cops still follow tips and look for an alive Caylee is bc they know they will have to answer to that in court- they are being as thorough as possible.

Talking again about how calls coming in seem to be a smokescreen. That makes me so angry. Obstruction of Justice anyone? Perhaps that’s why they won’t release a sketch?! Is it illegal to falsely accuse an imaginary person? Could I blame my work avoidance on such an imaginary person? Perhaps have them send me emails from made up addresses- threatening my life if I focus on work rather than this case? Damn that troll!!

Caller asks about searches on Casey’s computer for escorts and sex sites– was she involved in that? No one knows but they’re also suspicious of her looking at missing children websites (as far back as March) and searches for chloroform. That is just so creepy and sad. 😦 Was she really planning this for that long?

Caller asks about dual personality aka Sybil- maybe Casey took on ZG’s personality? NG guest says no- Casey just has no personality of her own so she takes on one from boyfriends and other lovers. Its funny, I was thinking about this theory the other day and thought of Primal Fear. Ed Norton gives a brilliant performance in that movie as someone who…tries to pull a similar defense in the courtroom.

Nancy asks about ZG getting any money from Casey- the thefty thief who had no job or money of her own. Morgan says its not about that its about ZG’s good name…BUT he goes on to mention that the Anthony family is rumored to be profiting BIGTIME from this case. That’s disgusting. Here’s a petition. There’s also contact info for ABC in my post about the 20/20 show- ABC’s rumored to have paid close to $200,000 to the Anthonys- NOT for the interview they said, but for the right to use the photos and video. Right.

ZG says she has received death threats. John Morgan says Casey played the race card to inflame the public like Susan Smith did bc ZG is Puerto Rican- or mixed as Casey described her.

Zenaida Gonzales is on right now talking about how Casey has ruined her life lately. ZG has never heard of Casey or Caylee. She got a call from detectives while she was out shopping– they called her on her cell. She did go see that vacant apt at Sawgrass. But had never heard of or met Casey.

How did Casey get that info? That is the million dollar question. Lawyer thinks it may be from the sign in card- as everyone suspects. Or did she break into ZG car and rifle a bit? She knew Annie and Dante who lived in 218. Leonard says she was driving Tony’s car around and she had been to visit Chris that day too. Maybe she was scoping where to dispose of Caylee and didn’t want to do it in her car. When I lived in OrLAHndo my apt complex had a trash compactor on the property- I think (should the need arise) I would dispose of a body there- wouldn’t it get so sealed up w/other trash that it wouldn’t be seen and wouldn’t smell?

Cops met ZG at her house later- she was fully cooperative, showed them the car Casey had described (lawsuit). ZG says she’s not a babysitter- she cleans. Gosh I feel so sorry for her. Her attny just said when he met her she was a basket case- no one would hire her and he said you can do nothing or you can push back and they filed the defamation suit.

NG guest says Casey is a perfect example of a psychopathic personality- that’s why Casey lies.

ZG says she has never received an apology from Casey, her attny or any of the Anthonys. Somehow I’m not surprised.

NG blathered on the rest of the show about Heather Locklear’s personal life.

 
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Posted by on October 2, 2008 in Uncategorized

 

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No more Zanny my Nanny – This Woman is Through! Real life Zenaida Gonzales sues Casey Anthony -Yea!

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Late Wednesday afternoon, it was revealed that Zenaida Gonzales has hired local ‘high profile’ attorney John Morgan and filed a civil lawsuit against Casey Anthony for defamation. What took her so long? I was thinking the ambulance chasers would have been hot on the trail of this one long ago. I guess they ethically have to approach her carefully but I’m surprised, frankly, that it took her so long to lawyer up. The minute that B!TCH said ANYTHING about me, knew personal details and dragged my name through the mud I would have put the SMACK down!! I feel really sorry for ZG and I hope she wins this case. Its being reported that Casey’s attorney Jose Baez is counting on entertainment/production deals in lieu of payment from Casey or her family. Though Lifetime TV denies it, some are saying that they’ve offered and entered into a contract for the story to the tune of over $2 million. YUCK! I feel sick. 😦

And for even more ICK….

Leonard Padilla, of cowboy hat, OrLAHndo, bounty hunter, bail bondsman fame has come out recently against Jose Baez saying he broke his promise to beef up security when Casey was bonded out to the Anthony home. Evidently he wanted the chaos outside w/protesters and media in order “to ramp up the drama” the night Casey was arrested at her parents’ house. He whined like a tiny baby, after the fact, blaming Law Enforcement for not allowing him to surrender her w/dignity. (Uh, reality to Jose? -your client waved buh-bye to dignity soo long ago!) He conveniently showed up at the Anthony home for the media scrum -after her arrest and held a marathon news conference slamming investigators for the show.

 
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Posted by on September 24, 2008 in Uncategorized

 

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